“What is Style?” Part 2

Over the course of this class we learned what style really meant or what it meant to us. I’ve learned that their are many types of style but it is all about what you make of it. YouTube has many different styles but overall the main feeling is that we just want to be heard. Their are styles of writing, and drawing like we saw in our “Invent your own writing technology project.”

If someone asked me what I learned in class, I would say I learned that style is universal. Style isn’t just one kind of writing it is used in many different technologies. Overall, now I believe style is what we make of it. Style can be our form of expression, in the way we communicate with one another, what we write, how we dress, etc. There is really no limit to what you can do to call something a certain style.

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Looking Back and Looking Forward

I do believe ancient style figures into this project because we are trying to get a point across in the short time that we have. When we analyzed YouTube commercials we were looking for a clear point, what would stand out to us, a beginning, middle and end in a way. Our video has to have a clear point that will be understood to a vast amount of people (plus be entertaining, who wants to watch something boring?).

Peer Review Recap 3

Looking back on our past peer reviews, I think each process has its pros and cons . The survey made it anonymous which was a pro,but the con was it didn’t really help when it came to revising the essays (well in my opinion). The original process has the pro of editors providing tips as you read through your paper again. The con I guess would be having so many editors at one time. For the survey, it became confusing because editors would do the survey and leave comments when I thought you were only supposed to do the survey.

In the end, I find that the original process is better for me. I know once I graduate I will have to deal with literary criticism, tough editing, rejection, etc. I believe this process helps make me a better writer. The survey served its purpose but with little to go on, I would end up searching the draft trying to figure out what my editor was pointing out.

What are others saying?

I visited a few of my classmates’ blogs and found that we have more in common with a writing then I thought.

First, I read through Alyse’s post ( http://alysebaby.wordpress.com/) on her first impression of Strunk and White. What stood out to me was when she called attention to “omit needless words” (23) and “keep related words together” (28). She stated, “I tend to be wordy at times and it’s one of my down falls. With that, I also don’t always keep related words together -meaning I don’t always structure my sentences correctly” (Alyse).From my first impression of Strunk and White I didn’t really see the need of the rule “keep related words together” mostly because I had never been taught it before, but now I truly understand why it is important. I tend to ramble a lot, write like I talk, and don’t structure my sentences correctly. My papers can be a bit confusing at times, which is why its an ongoing struggle for me.

Next, I read through Lisa M.’s post ( http://kassiopia26.wordpress.com/) on Comparing Strunk and White to Williams. We both came to the conclusion that Williams’ book is more detailed than Strunk and White’s (as did most of the class from what I read). She states,” I thought Williams’ book described aspects in more detail than in Strunk and White’s book. He explained different aspects of style in more detail throughout the whole book which I found effective. Strunk did a good job of showing examples in his book but did not really describe in detail why a certain style should be done the way he shows in the examples” (Lisa M.). I agree Williams’ book makes up for what Strunk and White’s book is lacking. As I have said in a previous post, Strunk and White’s book is mostly for when you need a quick answer in a timely manner. Williams’ book to me applies to papers with a lot of depth ( 10-15 pages ).

Comparing Strunk and White to Williams

Looking back at Strunk and White, they did have valid points, and useful information but it was mostly just are jumping off point. Williams expands on their ideas by providing detailed examples. He also explains why something we assumed would make sense, does not. I realize I was skeptical towards Williams at first but by explaining what to use in our writing  on our own level, giving suggestions or guidelines he lets us improve on our own writing at our own pace. I do recall that he mentions numerous times of saying “I can only give you tips…etc.” By saying that, he isn’t forcing his ways of writing down our throats, which makes the reader more adept to try to use different techniques. I believe the advice Williams provides us is more useful because of the details and examples provided. Williams breaks down the techniques of writing and explains each and every part. Strunk and White’s book is a more watered down version with a smaller amount of detail compared to Williams. While reading Williams’s book I realized the mistakes I have made in my writing and why I have gotten the results I have had. If I had to choose one chapter out of William’s book ,I would choose Chapter 6 “Coherence 2” it represented the issues I have had in the organization of my writing and why some readers don’t truly get my point half the time. 

Strunk and White might be more effective by the fact that it is more concise. If you have a quick question and you need to find the answer in a timely manner than you can.  Strunk and White is less effective if you don’t understand the information provided.

After reading both books, I do wonder. If Strunk and White was introduced in our high schools would we have been more prepared for college writing? I pose this question because of the example in Williams’ book from a law student on page 121. If we were better prepared would redundancy be less of an issue?

Overall, I do believe I will use both books in the future. I may be referencing from Williams’ book more.

Revising with Williams

 

“A geographic approach to tourism represents a distinctly different emphasis from the traditional business approach to the travel industry. The traditional business approach to travel necessarily sees an industry that must be efficiently managed for maximum sustainability of profit. The tourism geography approach, by contrast, focuses upon the physical and human geographic setting of the tourism experience. In addition, it focuses upon the intimate connection of the “internal” tourist experience with the “external” geography of the destination.”

This excerpt is from the  EMU catalog from 2009-2011, taken from the Geography Major-Tourism Geography Concentration introduction.

When I look at this paragraph I want to know how both industries differ. Profit is a difference but tourism is also a business that is profitable. I would reword the first sentence and have it read, “A geographic approach to tourism focuses more on the personal experience than the traditional business approach to the travel industry.”  Then with that sentence you could expand on the differences , mainly the personal experience because the reader is already set up for it from the first sentence. As Williams mentions in chapter five “Coherence 1,” he discusses how readers break up paragraphs and I believe “A short opening segment” applies here (92).”A short opening segment. Toward the end of this segment, in the stress position of the last sentence, readers look for the concepts the writer will discuss in the following section. Those words are often topics, but they must also include themes” (Williams, 92).  The geography introduction includes themes to begin with but by changing the first sentence the “issue” is more prominent and now the “discussion” can follow. Williams explains on 92 how the paragraph must first start with the issue and the discussion must follow.

 

Strunk and White: First Impressions

Two of the rules or “elements” from Strunk and White that I found helpful were “Do not break sentences in two”(7) and the chapter “Words and Expressions Commonly Misused” (39). The breaking of sentences is basically explaining why fragments of sentences aren’t sentences. According to Strunk and White ,”In other words do not use periods for commas”(7). From my understanding ,they are explaining how to piece sentences together without making it a run-on sentence.

The chapter “Words and Expressions Commonly Misused”(39), I believe is extremely helpful because I have witnessed others trying to use complicated words to appear intelligent, but really they don’t know the meaning of them or use it correctly. I have done this in the past and try to “catch” myself, and figure out the true meaning of the word I am using. For example, I can see the word “tortuous” (62) misinterpreted for “torturous”(62) if one isn’t careful. “Both words carry the idea of “twist,” the twist having been a form of torture”(62).

An element from Strunk and White that I find to be the least unhelpful is “Keep related words together”(28). According to Strunk and White, “Confusion and ambiguity result when words are badly placed. The writer must therefore, bring together the words and groups of words that are related in thought and keep apart those that are not so related”(28). What I don’t understand is the grouping of the words. I could list off things in a sentence, explain my day, and none of it could be related ,but it would make sense to me on paper and out loud. I read through the examples given and honestly I believe both examples sound fine.

Overall, I believe the other elements Strunk and White provide us with are extremely helpful. I recognize many from my grade school days and it’s always good to have something to look back to and reference from.

 

Peer Review Recap, Part 2

After going through the peer review process twice now, I have to say that both ways have pros, and both have cons. To do the anonymous peer review was ok because it was straight to the point. The con was the personality and reasoning behind it was gone in the feedback. I like the first peer review because it mirrors what would take place in the real world. Most likely a majority of us are Language, Literature, and Writing majors and will have to deal with editing sometime in the future. I see better patterns of thought when it comes to comments in the first peer review. We have to learn to take constructive criticism when it comes to writing. It won’t be easy in the future but it is what makes us better writers over all. The con I guess would be comments from editors that don’t want to hurt the writer’s feelings.

Considering Some Youtube Commercials

This commercial is simple yet to the point. There is repetition throughout.

I don’t know what year this was from but I believe it is after the one above. I wanted to show how through the years the amount of people on camera in a commercial downsized. The only thing I found odd was McDonald’s wasn’t mentioned by the actor until the commercial was nearly over. I realize that the emblem for McDonald’s is shown but shouldn’t the commercial be straight to the point with the actors?

 

Ancient Style

My impression from Crowley’s and Hawhee’s explanation of “ancient style,” is it is very straight to the point and detailed. To be honest I didn’t know what to make of this article. I had to break some of it down to even understand it a little bit. I did recognize some of the tropes which were onomatopoeia, metonomy, metaphor, and synecdoche. To be honest I have heard of hyperbole, but have never understood how to correctly use it. The figures that I found the most confusing though were  “Figures that Interrupt Normal Word Order.” It was hard to read something not totally from left to right, and also it lacked punctuation.